Symposium (tr. Benjamin Jowett)
by Plato
Hypertext Meanings and Commentaries
from the Encyclopedia of the Self
by Mark Zimmerman

SYMPOSIUM  
  
by Plato  
  
  
  
Translated by Benjamin Jowett  
  
  
  
  
INTRODUCTION.
  
Of all the works of Plato the Symposium is the most perfect in form, and  
may be truly thought to contain more than any commentator has ever dreamed  
of; or, as Goethe said of one of his own writings, more than the author  
himself knew. For in philosophy as in prophecy glimpses of the future may  
often be conveyed in words which could hardly have been understood or  
interpreted at the time when they were uttered (compare Symp.)--which were  
wiser than the writer of them meant, and could not have been expressed by  
him if he had been interrogated about them. Yet Plato was not a mystic,  
nor in any degree affected by the Eastern influences which afterwards  
overspread the Alexandrian world. He was not an enthusiast or a  
sentimentalist, but one who aspired only to see reasoned truth, and whose  
thoughts are clearly explained in his language. There is no foreign  
element either of Egypt or of Asia to be found in his writings. And more  
than any other Platonic work the Symposium is Greek both in style and  
subject, having a beauty 'as of a statue,' while the companion Dialogue of  
the Phaedrus is marked by a sort of Gothic irregularity. More too than in  
any other of his Dialogues, Plato is emancipated from former philosophies.
The genius of Greek art seems to triumph over the traditions of  
Pythagorean, Eleatic, or Megarian systems, and 'the old quarrel of poetry  
and philosophy' has at least a superficial reconcilement. (Rep.)  
  
An unknown person who had heard of the discourses in praise of love spoken  
by Socrates and others at the banquet of Agathon is desirous of having an  
authentic account of them, which he thinks that he can obtain from  
Apollodorus, the same excitable, or rather 'mad' friend of Socrates, who is  
afterwards introduced in the Phaedo. He had imagined that the discourses  
were recent. There he is mistaken: but they are still fresh in the memory  
of his informant, who had just been repeating them to Glaucon, and is quite  
prepared to have another rehearsal of them in a walk from the Piraeus to  
Athens. Although he had not been present himself, he had heard them from  
the best authority. Aristodemus, who is described as having been in past  
times a humble but inseparable attendant of Socrates, had reported them to  
him (compare Xen. Mem.).
  
The narrative which he had heard was as follows:--  
  
Aristodemus meeting Socrates in holiday attire, is invited by him to a  
banquet at the house of Agathon, who had been sacrificing in thanksgiving  
for his tragic victory on the day previous. But no sooner has he entered  
the house than he finds that he is alone; Socrates has stayed behind in a  
fit of abstraction, and does not appear until the banquet is half over. On  
his appearing he and the host jest a little; the question is then asked by  
Pausanias, one of the guests, 'What shall they do about drinking? as they  
had been all well drunk on the day before, and drinking on two successive  
days is such a bad thing.'  This is confirmed by the authority of  
Eryximachus the physician, who further proposes that instead of listening  
to the flute-girl and her 'noise' they shall make speeches in honour of  
love, one after another, going from left to right in the order in which  
they are reclining at the table. All of them agree to this proposal, and  
Phaedrus, who is the 'father' of the idea, which he has previously  
communicated to Eryximachus, begins as follows:--  
  
He descants first of all upon the antiquity of love, which is proved by the  
authority of the poets; secondly upon the benefits which love gives to man.
The greatest of these is the sense of honour and dishonour. The lover is  
ashamed to be seen by the beloved doing or suffering any cowardly or mean  
act. And a state or army which was made up only of lovers and their loves  
would be invincible. For love will convert the veriest coward into an  
inspired hero.
  
And there have been true loves not only of men but of women also. Such was  
the love of Alcestis, who dared to die for her husband, and in recompense  
of her virtue was allowed to come again from the dead. But Orpheus, the  
miserable harper, who went down to Hades alive, that he might bring back  
his wife, was mocked with an apparition only, and the gods afterwards  
contrived his death as the punishment of his cowardliness. The love of  
Achilles, like that of Alcestis, was courageous and true; for he was  
willing to avenge his lover Patroclus, although he knew that his own death  
would immediately follow: and the gods, who honour the love of the beloved  
above that of the lover, rewarded him, and sent him to the islands of the  
blest.
  
Pausanias, who was sitting next, then takes up the tale:--He says that  
Phaedrus should have distinguished the heavenly love from the earthly,  
before he praised either. For there are two loves, as there are two  
Aphrodites--one the daughter of Uranus, who has no mother and is the elder  
and wiser goddess, and the other, the daughter of Zeus and Dione, who is  
popular and common. The first of the two loves has a noble purpose, and  
delights only in the intelligent nature of man, and is faithful to the end,  
and has no shadow of wantonness or lust. The second is the coarser kind of  
love, which is a love of the body rather than of the soul, and is of women  
and boys as well as of men. Now the actions of lovers vary, like every  
other sort of action, according to the manner of their performance. And in  
different countries there is a difference of opinion about male loves.  
Some, like the Boeotians, approve of them; others, like the Ionians, and  
most of the barbarians, disapprove of them; partly because they are aware  
of the political dangers which ensue from them, as may be seen in the  
instance of Harmodius and Aristogeiton. At Athens and Sparta there is an  
apparent contradiction about them. For at times they are encouraged, and  
then the lover is allowed to play all sorts of fantastic tricks; he may  
swear and forswear himself (and 'at lovers' perjuries they say Jove  
laughs'); he may be a servant, and lie on a mat at the door of his love,  
without any loss of character; but there are also times when elders look  
grave and guard their young relations, and personal remarks are made. The  
truth is that some of these loves are disgraceful and others honourable.  
The vulgar love of the body which takes wing and flies away when the bloom  
of youth is over, is disgraceful, and so is the interested love of power or  
wealth; but the love of the noble mind is lasting. The lover should be  
tested, and the beloved should not be too ready to yield. The rule in our  
country is that the beloved may do the same service to the lover in the way  
of virtue which the lover may do to him.
  
A voluntary service to be rendered for the sake of virtue and wisdom is  
permitted among us; and when these two customs--one the love of youth, the  
other the practice of virtue and philosophy--meet in one, then the lovers  
may lawfully unite. Nor is there any disgrace to a disinterested lover in  
being deceived: but the interested lover is doubly disgraced, for if he  
loses his love he loses his character; whereas the noble love of the other  
remains the same, although the object of his love is unworthy: for nothing  
can be nobler than love for the sake of virtue. This is that love of the  
heavenly goddess which is of great price to individuals and cities, making  
them work together for their improvement.
  
The turn of Aristophanes comes next; but he has the hiccough, and therefore  
proposes that Eryximachus the physician shall cure him or speak in his  
turn. Eryximachus is ready to do both, and after prescribing for the  
hiccough, speaks as follows:--  
  
He agrees with Pausanias in maintaining that there are two kinds of love;  
but his art has led him to the further conclusion that the empire of this  
double love extends over all things, and is to be found in animals and  
plants as well as in man. In the human body also there are two loves; and  
the art of medicine shows which is the good and which is the bad love, and  
persuades the body to accept the good and reject the bad, and reconciles  
conflicting elements and makes them friends. Every art, gymnastic and  
husbandry as well as medicine, is the reconciliation of opposites; and this  
is what Heracleitus meant, when he spoke of a harmony of opposites: but in  
strictness he should rather have spoken of a harmony which succeeds  
opposites, for an agreement of disagreements there cannot be. Music too is  
concerned with the principles of love in their application to harmony and  
rhythm. In the abstract, all is simple, and we are not troubled with the  
twofold love; but when they are applied in education with their  
accompaniments of song and metre, then the discord begins. Then the old  
tale has to be repeated of fair Urania and the coarse Polyhymnia, who must  
be indulged sparingly, just as in my own art of medicine care must be taken  
that the taste of the epicure be gratified without inflicting upon him the  
attendant penalty of disease.
  
There is a similar harmony or disagreement in the course of the seasons and  
in the relations of moist and dry, hot and cold, hoar frost and blight; and  
diseases of all sorts spring from the excesses or disorders of the element  
of love. The knowledge of these elements of love and discord in the  
heavenly bodies is termed astronomy, in the relations of men towards gods  
and parents is called divination. For divination is the peacemaker of gods  
and men, and works by a knowledge of the tendencies of merely human loves  
to piety and impiety. Such is the power of love; and that love which is  
just and temperate has the greatest power, and is the source of all our  
happiness and friendship with the gods and with one another. I dare say  
that I have omitted to mention many things which you, Aristophanes, may  
supply, as I perceive that you are cured of the hiccough.
  
Aristophanes is the next speaker:--  
  
He professes to open a new vein of discourse, in which he begins by  
treating of the origin of human nature. The sexes were originally three,  
men, women, and the union of the two; and they were made round--having four  
hands, four feet, two faces on a round neck, and the rest to correspond.  
Terrible was their strength and swiftness; and they were essaying to scale  
heaven and attack the gods. Doubt reigned in the celestial councils; the  
gods were divided between the desire of quelling the pride of man and the  
fear of losing the sacrifices. At last Zeus hit upon an expedient. Let us  
cut them in two, he said; then they will only have half their strength, and  
we shall have twice as many sacrifices. He spake, and split them as you  
might split an egg with an hair; and when this was done, he told Apollo to  
give their faces a twist and re-arrange their persons, taking out the  
wrinkles and tying the skin in a knot about the navel. The two halves went  
about looking for one another, and were ready to die of hunger in one  
another's arms. Then Zeus invented an adjustment of the sexes, which  
enabled them to marry and go their way to the business of life. Now the  
characters of men differ accordingly as they are derived from the original  
man or the original woman, or the original man-woman. Those who come from  
the man-woman are lascivious and adulterous; those who come from the woman  
form female attachments; those who are a section of the male follow the  
male and embrace him, and in him all their desires centre. The pair are  
inseparable and live together in pure and manly affection; yet they cannot  
tell what they want of one another. But if Hephaestus were to come to them  
with his instruments and propose that they should be melted into one and  
remain one here and hereafter, they would acknowledge that this was the  
very expression of their want. For love is the desire of the whole, and  
the pursuit of the whole is called love. There was a time when the two  
sexes were only one, but now God has halved them,--much as the  
Lacedaemonians have cut up the Arcadians,--and if they do not behave  
themselves he will divide them again, and they will hop about with half a  
nose and face in basso relievo. Wherefore let us exhort all men to piety,  
that we may obtain the goods of which love is the author, and be reconciled  
to God, and find our own true loves, which rarely happens in this world.  
And now I must beg you not to suppose that I am alluding to Pausanias and  
Agathon (compare Protag.), for my words refer to all mankind everywhere.
  
Some raillery ensues first between Aristophanes and Eryximachus, and then  
between Agathon, who fears a few select friends more than any number of  
spectators at the theatre, and Socrates, who is disposed to begin an  
argument. This is speedily repressed by Phaedrus, who reminds the  
disputants of their tribute to the god. Agathon's speech follows:--  
  
He will speak of the god first and then of his gifts: He is the fairest  
and blessedest and best of the gods, and also the youngest, having had no  
existence in the old days of Iapetus and Cronos when the gods were at war.
The things that were done then were done of necessity and not of love. For  
love is young and dwells in soft places,--not like Ate in Homer, walking on  
the skulls of men, but in their hearts and souls, which are soft enough.  
He is all flexibility and grace, and his habitation is among the flowers,  
and he cannot do or suffer wrong; for all men serve and obey him of their  
own free will, and where there is love there is obedience, and where  
obedience, there is justice; for none can be wronged of his own free will.  
And he is temperate as well as just, for he is the ruler of the desires,  
and if he rules them he must be temperate. Also he is courageous, for he  
is the conqueror of the lord of war. And he is wise too; for he is a poet,  
and the author of poesy in others. He created the animals; he is the  
inventor of the arts; all the gods are his subjects; he is the fairest and  
best himself, and the cause of what is fairest and best in others; he makes  
men to be of one mind at a banquet, filling them with affection and  
emptying them of disaffection; the pilot, helper, defender, saviour of men,  
in whose footsteps let every man follow, chanting a strain of love. Such  
is the discourse, half playful, half serious, which I dedicate to the god.
  
The turn of Socrates comes next. He begins by remarking satirically that  
he has not understood the terms of the original agreement, for he fancied  
that they meant to speak the true praises of love, but now he finds that  
they only say what is good of him, whether true or false. He begs to be  
absolved from speaking falsely, but he is willing to speak the truth, and  
proposes to begin by questioning Agathon. The result of his questions may  
be summed up as follows:--  
  
Love is of something, and that which love desires is not that which love is  
or has; for no man desires that which he is or has. And love is of the  
beautiful, and therefore has not the beautiful. And the beautiful is the  
good, and therefore, in wanting and desiring the beautiful, love also wants  
and desires the good. Socrates professes to have asked the same questions  
and to have obtained the same answers from Diotima, a wise woman of  
Mantinea, who, like Agathon, had spoken first of love and then of his  
works. Socrates, like Agathon, had told her that Love is a mighty god and  
also fair, and she had shown him in return that Love was neither, but in a  
mean between fair and foul, good and evil, and not a god at all, but only a  
great demon or intermediate power (compare the speech of Eryximachus) who  
conveys to the gods the prayers of men, and to men the commands of the  
gods.
  
Socrates asks: Who are his father and mother? To this Diotima replies  
that he is the son of Plenty and Poverty, and partakes of the nature of  
both, and is full and starved by turns. Like his mother he is poor and  
squalid, lying on mats at doors (compare the speech of Pausanias); like his  
father he is bold and strong, and full of arts and resources. Further, he  
is in a mean between ignorance and knowledge:--in this he resembles the  
philosopher who is also in a mean between the wise and the ignorant. Such  
is the nature of Love, who is not to be confused with the beloved.
  
But Love desires the beautiful; and then arises the question, What does he  
desire of the beautiful? He desires, of course, the possession of the  
beautiful;--but what is given by that? For the beautiful let us substitute  
the good, and we have no difficulty in seeing the possession of the good to  
be happiness, and Love to be the desire of happiness, although the meaning  
of the word has been too often confined to one kind of love. And Love  
desires not only the good, but the everlasting possession of the good. Why  
then is there all this flutter and excitement about love? Because all men  
and women at a certain age are desirous of bringing to the birth. And love  
is not of beauty only, but of birth in beauty; this is the principle of  
immortality in a mortal creature. When beauty approaches, then the  
conceiving power is benign and diffuse; when foulness, she is averted and  
morose.
  
But why again does this extend not only to men but also to animals?  
Because they too have an instinct of immortality. Even in the same  
individual there is a perpetual succession as well of the parts of the  
material body as of the thoughts and desires of the mind; nay, even  
knowledge comes and goes. There is no sameness of existence, but the new  
mortality is always taking the place of the old. This is the reason why  
parents love their children--for the sake of immortality; and this is why  
men love the immortality of fame. For the creative soul creates not  
children, but conceptions of wisdom and virtue, such as poets and other  
creators have invented. And the noblest creations of all are those of  
legislators, in honour of whom temples have been raised. Who would not  
sooner have these children of the mind than the ordinary human ones?  
(Compare Bacon's Essays, 8:--'Certainly the best works and of greatest  
merit for the public have proceeded from the unmarried or childless men;  
which both in affection and means have married and endowed the public.')  
  
I will now initiate you, she said, into the greater mysteries; for he who  
would proceed in due course should love first one fair form, and then many,  
and learn the connexion of them; and from beautiful bodies he should  
proceed to beautiful minds, and the beauty of laws and institutions, until  
he perceives that all beauty is of one kindred; and from institutions he  
should go on to the sciences, until at last the vision is revealed to him  
of a single science of universal beauty, and then he will behold the  
everlasting nature which is the cause of all, and will be near the end. In  
the contemplation of that supreme being of love he will be purified of  
earthly leaven, and will behold beauty, not with the bodily eye, but with  
the eye of the mind, and will bring forth true creations of virtue and  
wisdom, and be the friend of God and heir of immortality.
  
Such, Phaedrus, is the tale which I heard from the stranger of Mantinea,  
and which you may call the encomium of love, or what you please.
  
The company applaud the speech of Socrates, and Aristophanes is about to  
say something, when suddenly a band of revellers breaks into the court, and  
the voice of Alcibiades is heard asking for Agathon. He is led in drunk,  
and welcomed by Agathon, whom he has come to crown with a garland. He is  
placed on a couch at his side, but suddenly, on recognizing Socrates, he  
starts up, and a sort of conflict is carried on between them, which Agathon  
is requested to appease. Alcibiades then insists that they shall drink,  
and has a large wine-cooler filled, which he first empties himself, and  
then fills again and passes on to Socrates. He is informed of the nature  
of the entertainment; and is ready to join, if only in the character of a  
drunken and disappointed lover he may be allowed to sing the praises of  
Socrates:--  
  
He begins by comparing Socrates first to the busts of Silenus, which have  
images of the gods inside them; and, secondly, to Marsyas the flute-player.
For Socrates produces the same effect with the voice which Marsyas did with  
the flute. He is the great speaker and enchanter who ravishes the souls of  
men; the convincer of hearts too, as he has convinced Alcibiades, and made  
him ashamed of his mean and miserable life. Socrates at one time seemed  
about to fall in love with him; and he thought that he would thereby gain a  
wonderful opportunity of receiving lessons of wisdom. He narrates the  
failure of his design. He has suffered agonies from him, and is at his  
wit's end. He then proceeds to mention some other particulars of the life  
of Socrates; how they were at Potidaea together, where Socrates showed his  
superior powers of enduring cold and fatigue; how on one occasion he had  
stood for an entire day and night absorbed in reflection amid the wonder of  
the spectators; how on another occasion he had saved Alcibiades' life; how  
at the battle of Delium, after the defeat, he might be seen stalking about  
like a pelican, rolling his eyes as Aristophanes had described him in the  
Clouds. He is the most wonderful of human beings, and absolutely unlike  
anyone but a satyr. Like the satyr in his language too; for he uses the  
commonest words as the outward mask of the divinest truths.
  
When Alcibiades has done speaking, a dispute begins between him and Agathon  
and Socrates. Socrates piques Alcibiades by a pretended affection for  
Agathon. Presently a band of revellers appears, who introduce disorder  
into the feast; the sober part of the company, Eryximachus, Phaedrus, and  
others, withdraw; and Aristodemus, the follower of Socrates, sleeps during  
the whole of a long winter's night. When he wakes at cockcrow the  
revellers are nearly all asleep. Only Socrates, Aristophanes, and Agathon  
hold out; they are drinking from a large goblet, which they pass round, and  
Socrates is explaining to the two others, who are half-asleep, that the  
genius of tragedy is the same as that of comedy, and that the writer of  
tragedy ought to be a writer of comedy also. And first Aristophanes drops,  
and then, as the day is dawning, Agathon. Socrates, having laid them to  
rest, takes a bath and goes to his daily avocations until the evening.  
Aristodemus follows.
  
...
  
If it be true that there are more things in the Symposium of Plato than any  
commentator has dreamed of, it is also true that many things have been  
imagined which are not really to be found there. Some writings hardly  
admit of a more distinct interpretation than a musical composition; and  
every reader may form his own accompaniment of thought or feeling to the  
strain which he hears. The Symposium of Plato is a work of this character,  
and can with difficulty be rendered in any words but the writer's own.  
There are so many half-lights and cross-lights, so much of the colour of  
mythology, and of the manner of sophistry adhering--rhetoric and poetry,  
the playful and the serious, are so subtly intermingled in it, and vestiges  
of old philosophy so curiously blend with germs of future knowledge, that  
agreement among interpreters is not to be expected. The expression 'poema  
magis putandum quam comicorum poetarum,' which has been applied to all the  
writings of Plato, is especially applicable to the Symposium.
  
The power of love is represented in the Symposium as running through all  
nature and all being: at one end descending to animals and plants, and  
attaining to the highest vision of truth at the other. In an age when man  
was seeking for an expression of the world around him, the conception of  
love greatly affected him. One of the first distinctions of language and  
of mythology was that of gender; and at a later period the ancient  
physicist, anticipating modern science, saw, or thought that he saw, a sex  
in plants; there were elective affinities among the elements, marriages of  
earth and heaven. (Aesch. Frag. Dan.)  Love became a mythic personage whom  
philosophy, borrowing from poetry, converted into an efficient cause of  
creation. The traces of the existence of love, as of number and figure,  
were everywhere discerned; and in the Pythagorean list of opposites male  
and female were ranged side by side with odd and even, finite and infinite.
  
But Plato seems also to be aware that there is a mystery of love in man as  
well as in nature, extending beyond the mere immediate relation of the  
sexes. He is conscious that the highest and noblest things in the world  
are not easily severed from the sensual desires, or may even be regarded as  
a spiritualized form of them. We may observe that Socrates himself is not  
represented as originally unimpassioned, but as one who has overcome his  
passions; the secret of his power over others partly lies in his passionate  
but self-controlled nature. In the Phaedrus and Symposium love is not  
merely the feeling usually so called, but the mystical contemplation of the  
beautiful and the good. The same passion which may wallow in the mire is  
capable of rising to the loftiest heights--of penetrating the inmost secret  
of philosophy. The highest love is the love not of a person, but of the  
highest and purest abstraction. This abstraction is the far-off heaven on  
which the eye of the mind is fixed in fond amazement. The unity of truth,  
the consistency of the warring elements of the world, the enthusiasm for  
knowledge when first beaming upon mankind, the relativity of ideas to the  
human mind, and of the human mind to ideas, the faith in the invisible, the  
adoration of the eternal nature, are all included, consciously or  
unconsciously, in Plato's doctrine of love.
  
The successive speeches in praise of love are characteristic of the  
speakers, and contribute in various degrees to the final result; they are  
all designed to prepare the way for Socrates, who gathers up the threads  
anew, and skims the highest points of each of them. But they are not to be  
regarded as the stages of an idea, rising above one another to a climax.  
They are fanciful, partly facetious performances, 'yet also having a  
certain measure of seriousness,' which the successive speakers dedicate to  
the god. All of them are rhetorical and poetical rather than dialectical,  
but glimpses of truth appear in them. When Eryximachus says that the  
principles of music are simple in themselves, but confused in their  
application, he touches lightly upon a difficulty which has troubled the  
moderns as well as the ancients in music, and may be extended to the other  
applied sciences. That confusion begins in the concrete, was the natural  
feeling of a mind dwelling in the world of ideas. When Pausanias remarks  
that personal attachments are inimical to despots. The experience of Greek  
history confirms the truth of his remark. When Aristophanes declares that  
love is the desire of the whole, he expresses a feeling not unlike that of  
the German philosopher, who says that 'philosophy is home sickness.'  When  
Agathon says that no man 'can be wronged of his own free will,' he is  
alluding playfully to a serious problem of Greek philosophy (compare Arist.
Nic. Ethics). So naturally does Plato mingle jest and earnest, truth and  
opinion in the same work.
  
The characters--of Phaedrus, who has been the cause of more philosophical  
discussions than any other man, with the exception of Simmias the Theban  
(Phaedrus); of Aristophanes, who disguises under comic imagery a serious  
purpose; of Agathon, who in later life is satirized by Aristophanes in the  
Thesmophoriazusae, for his effeminate manners and the feeble rhythms of his  
verse; of Alcibiades, who is the same strange contrast of great powers and  
great vices, which meets us in history--are drawn to the life; and we may  
suppose the less-known characters of Pausanias and Eryximachus to be also  
true to the traditional recollection of them (compare Phaedr., Protag.; and  
compare Sympos. with Phaedr.). We may also remark that Aristodemus is  
called 'the little' in Xenophon's Memorabilia (compare Symp.).
  
The speeches have been said to follow each other in pairs: Phaedrus and  
Pausanias being the ethical, Eryximachus and Aristophanes the physical  
speakers, while in Agathon and Socrates poetry and philosophy blend  
together. The speech of Phaedrus is also described as the mythological,  
that of Pausanias as the political, that of Eryximachus as the scientific,  
that of Aristophanes as the artistic (!), that of Socrates as the  
philosophical. But these and similar distinctions are not found in Plato;  
--they are the points of view of his critics, and seem to impede rather  
than to assist us in understanding him.
  
When the turn of Socrates comes round he cannot be allowed to disturb the  
arrangement made at first. With the leave of Phaedrus he asks a few  
questions, and then he throws his argument into the form of a speech  
(compare Gorg., Protag.). But his speech is really the narrative of a  
dialogue between himself and Diotima. And as at a banquet good manners  
would not allow him to win a victory either over his host or any of the  
guests, the superiority which he gains over Agathon is ingeniously  
represented as having been already gained over himself by her. The  
artifice has the further advantage of maintaining his accustomed profession  
of ignorance (compare Menex.). Even his knowledge of the mysteries of  
love, to which he lays claim here and elsewhere (Lys.), is given by  
Diotima.
  
The speeches are attested to us by the very best authority. The madman  
Apollodorus, who for three years past has made a daily study of the actions  
of Socrates--to whom the world is summed up in the words 'Great is  
Socrates'--he has heard them from another 'madman,' Aristodemus, who was  
the 'shadow' of Socrates in days of old, like him going about barefooted,  
and who had been present at the time. 'Would you desire better witness?'   
The extraordinary narrative of Alcibiades is ingeniously represented as  
admitted by Socrates, whose silence when he is invited to contradict gives  
consent to the narrator. We may observe, by the way, (1) how the very  
appearance of Aristodemus by himself is a sufficient indication to Agathon  
that Socrates has been left behind; also, (2) how the courtesy of Agathon  
anticipates the excuse which Socrates was to have made on Aristodemus'  
behalf for coming uninvited; (3) how the story of the fit or trance of  
Socrates is confirmed by the mention which Alcibiades makes of a similar  
fit of abstraction occurring when he was serving with the army at Potidaea;  
like (4) the drinking powers of Socrates and his love of the fair, which  
receive a similar attestation in the concluding scene; or the attachment of  
Aristodemus, who is not forgotten when Socrates takes his departure. (5)  
We may notice the manner in which Socrates himself regards the first five  
speeches, not as true, but as fanciful and exaggerated encomiums of the god  
Love; (6) the satirical character of them, shown especially in the appeals  
to mythology, in the reasons which are given by Zeus for reconstructing the  
frame of man, or by the Boeotians and Eleans for encouraging male loves;  
(7) the ruling passion of Socrates for dialectics, who will argue with  
Agathon instead of making a speech, and will only speak at all upon the  
condition that he is allowed to speak the truth. We may note also the  
touch of Socratic irony, (8) which admits of a wide application and reveals  
a deep insight into the world:--that in speaking of holy things and persons  
there is a general understanding that you should praise them, not that you  
should speak the truth about them--this is the sort of praise which  
Socrates is unable to give. Lastly, (9) we may remark that the banquet is  
a real banquet after all, at which love is the theme of discourse, and huge  
quantities of wine are drunk.
  
The discourse of Phaedrus is half-mythical, half-ethical; and he himself,  
true to the character which is given him in the Dialogue bearing his name,  
is half-sophist, half-enthusiast. He is the critic of poetry also, who  
compares Homer and Aeschylus in the insipid and irrational manner of the  
schools of the day, characteristically reasoning about the probability of  
matters which do not admit of reasoning. He starts from a noble text:  
'That without the sense of honour and dishonour neither states nor  
individuals ever do any good or great work.'  But he soon passes on to more  
common-place topics. The antiquity of love, the blessing of having a  
lover, the incentive which love offers to daring deeds, the examples of  
Alcestis and Achilles, are the chief themes of his discourse. The love of  
women is regarded by him as almost on an equality with that of men; and he  
makes the singular remark that the gods favour the return of love which is  
made by the beloved more than the original sentiment, because the lover is  
of a nobler and diviner nature.
  
There is something of a sophistical ring in the speech of Phaedrus, which  
recalls the first speech in imitation of Lysias, occurring in the Dialogue  
called the Phaedrus. This is still more marked in the speech of Pausanias  
which follows; and which is at once hyperlogical in form and also extremely  
confused and pedantic. Plato is attacking the logical feebleness of the  
sophists and rhetoricians, through their pupils, not forgetting by the way  
to satirize the monotonous and unmeaning rhythms which Prodicus and others  
were introducing into Attic prose (compare Protag.). Of course, he is  
'playing both sides of the game,' as in the Gorgias and Phaedrus; but it is  
not necessary in order to understand him that we should discuss the  
fairness of his mode of proceeding. The love of Pausanias for Agathon has  
already been touched upon in the Protagoras, and is alluded to by  
Aristophanes. Hence he is naturally the upholder of male loves, which,  
like all the other affections or actions of men, he regards as varying  
according to the manner of their performance. Like the sophists and like  
Plato himself, though in a different sense, he begins his discussion by an  
appeal to mythology, and distinguishes between the elder and younger love.  
The value which he attributes to such loves as motives to virtue and  
philosophy is at variance with modern and Christian notions, but is in  
accordance with Hellenic sentiment. The opinion of Christendom has not  
altogether condemned passionate friendships between persons of the same  
sex, but has certainly not encouraged them, because though innocent in  
themselves in a few temperaments they are liable to degenerate into fearful  
evil. Pausanias is very earnest in the defence of such loves; and he  
speaks of them as generally approved among Hellenes and disapproved by  
barbarians. His speech is 'more words than matter,' and might have been  
composed by a pupil of Lysias or of Prodicus, although there is no hint  
given that Plato is specially referring to them. As Eryximachus says, 'he  
makes a fair beginning, but a lame ending.'  
  
Plato transposes the two next speeches, as in the Republic he would  
transpose the virtues and the mathematical sciences. This is done partly  
to avoid monotony, partly for the sake of making Aristophanes 'the cause of  
wit in others,' and also in order to bring the comic and tragic poet into  
juxtaposition, as if by accident. A suitable 'expectation' of Aristophanes  
is raised by the ludicrous circumstance of his having the hiccough, which  
is appropriately cured by his substitute, the physician Eryximachus. To  
Eryximachus Love is the good physician; he sees everything as an  
intelligent physicist, and, like many professors of his art in modern  
times, attempts to reduce the moral to the physical; or recognises one law  
of love which pervades them both. There are loves and strifes of the body  
as well as of the mind. Like Hippocrates the Asclepiad, he is a disciple  
of Heracleitus, whose conception of the harmony of opposites he explains in  
a new way as the harmony after discord; to his common sense, as to that of  
many moderns as well as ancients, the identity of contradictories is an  
absurdity. His notion of love may be summed up as the harmony of man with  
himself in soul as well as body, and of all things in heaven and earth with  
one another.
  
Aristophanes is ready to laugh and make laugh before he opens his mouth,  
just as Socrates, true to his character, is ready to argue before he begins  
to speak. He expresses the very genius of the old comedy, its coarse and  
forcible imagery, and the licence of its language in speaking about the  
gods. He has no sophistical notions about love, which is brought back by  
him to its common-sense meaning of love between intelligent beings. His  
account of the origin of the sexes has the greatest (comic) probability and  
verisimilitude. Nothing in Aristophanes is more truly Aristophanic than  
the description of the human monster whirling round on four arms and four  
legs, eight in all, with incredible rapidity. Yet there is a mixture of  
earnestness in this jest; three serious principles seem to be insinuated:--  
first, that man cannot exist in isolation; he must be reunited if he is to  
be perfected: secondly, that love is the mediator and reconciler of poor,  
divided human nature: thirdly, that the loves of this world are an  
indistinct anticipation of an ideal union which is not yet realized.
  
The speech of Agathon is conceived in a higher strain, and receives the  
real, if half-ironical, approval of Socrates. It is the speech of the  
tragic poet and a sort of poem, like tragedy, moving among the gods of  
Olympus, and not among the elder or Orphic deities. In the idea of the  
antiquity of love he cannot agree; love is not of the olden time, but  
present and youthful ever. The speech may be compared with that speech of  
Socrates in the Phaedrus in which he describes himself as talking  
dithyrambs. It is at once a preparation for Socrates and a foil to him.  
The rhetoric of Agathon elevates the soul to 'sunlit heights,' but at the  
same time contrasts with the natural and necessary eloquence of Socrates.  
Agathon contributes the distinction between love and the works of love, and  
also hints incidentally that love is always of beauty, which Socrates  
afterwards raises into a principle. While the consciousness of discord is  
stronger in the comic poet Aristophanes, Agathon, the tragic poet, has a  
deeper sense of harmony and reconciliation, and speaks of Love as the  
creator and artist.
  
All the earlier speeches embody common opinions coloured with a tinge of  
philosophy. They furnish the material out of which Socrates proceeds to  
form his discourse, starting, as in other places, from mythology and the  
opinions of men. From Phaedrus he takes the thought that love is stronger  
than death; from Pausanias, that the true love is akin to intellect and  
political activity; from Eryximachus, that love is a universal phenomenon  
and the great power of nature; from Aristophanes, that love is the child of  
want, and is not merely the love of the congenial or of the whole, but (as  
he adds) of the good; from Agathon, that love is of beauty, not however of  
beauty only, but of birth in beauty. As it would be out of character for  
Socrates to make a lengthened harangue, the speech takes the form of a  
dialogue between Socrates and a mysterious woman of foreign extraction.  
She elicits the final truth from one who knows nothing, and who, speaking  
by the lips of another, and himself a despiser of rhetoric, is proved also  
to be the most consummate of rhetoricians (compare Menexenus).
  
The last of the six discourses begins with a short argument which  
overthrows not only Agathon but all the preceding speakers by the help of a  
distinction which has escaped them. Extravagant praises have been ascribed  
to Love as the author of every good; no sort of encomium was too high for  
him, whether deserved and true or not. But Socrates has no talent for  
speaking anything but the truth, and if he is to speak the truth of Love he  
must honestly confess that he is not a good at all: for love is of the  
good, and no man can desire that which he has. This piece of dialectics is  
ascribed to Diotima, who has already urged upon Socrates the argument which  
he urges against Agathon. That the distinction is a fallacy is obvious; it  
is almost acknowledged to be so by Socrates himself. For he who has beauty  
or good may desire more of them; and he who has beauty or good in himself  
may desire beauty and good in others. The fallacy seems to arise out of a  
confusion between the abstract ideas of good and beauty, which do not admit  
of degrees, and their partial realization in individuals.
  
But Diotima, the prophetess of Mantineia, whose sacred and superhuman  
character raises her above the ordinary proprieties of women, has taught  
Socrates far more than this about the art and mystery of love. She has  
taught him that love is another aspect of philosophy. The same want in the  
human soul which is satisfied in the vulgar by the procreation of children,  
may become the highest aspiration of intellectual desire. As the Christian  
might speak of hungering and thirsting after righteousness; or of divine  
loves under the figure of human (compare Eph. 'This is a great mystery, but  
I speak concerning Christ and the church'); as the mediaeval saint might  
speak of the 'fruitio Dei;' as Dante saw all things contained in his love  
of Beatrice, so Plato would have us absorb all other loves and desires in  
the love of knowledge. Here is the beginning of Neoplatonism, or rather,  
perhaps, a proof (of which there are many) that the so-called mysticism of  
the East was not strange to the Greek of the fifth century before Christ.  
The first tumult of the affections was not wholly subdued; there were  
longings of a creature   
  
Moving about in worlds not realized,  
  
which no art could satisfy. To most men reason and passion appear to be  
antagonistic both in idea and fact. The union of the greatest  
comprehension of knowledge and the burning intensity of love is a  
contradiction in nature, which may have existed in a far-off primeval age  
in the mind of some Hebrew prophet or other Eastern sage, but has now  
become an imagination only. Yet this 'passion of the reason' is the theme  
of the Symposium of Plato. And as there is no impossibility in supposing  
that 'one king, or son of a king, may be a philosopher,' so also there is a  
probability that there may be some few--perhaps one or two in a whole  
generation--in whom the light of truth may not lack the warmth of desire.  
And if there be such natures, no one will be disposed to deny that 'from  
them flow most of the benefits of individuals and states;' and even from  
imperfect combinations of the two elements in teachers or statesmen great  
good may often arise.
  
Yet there is a higher region in which love is not only felt, but satisfied,  
in the perfect beauty of eternal knowledge, beginning with the beauty of  
earthly things, and at last reaching a beauty in which all existence is  
seen to be harmonious and one. The limited affection is enlarged, and  
enabled to behold the ideal of all things. And here the highest summit  
which is reached in the Symposium is seen also to be the highest summit  
which is attained in the Republic, but approached from another side; and  
there is 'a way upwards and downwards,' which is the same and not the same  
in both. The ideal beauty of the one is the ideal good of the other;  
regarded not with the eye of knowledge, but of faith and desire; and they  
are respectively the source of beauty and the source of good in all other  
things. And by the steps of a 'ladder reaching to heaven' we pass from  
images of visible beauty (Greek), and from the hypotheses of the  
Mathematical sciences, which are not yet based upon the idea of good,  
through the concrete to the abstract, and, by different paths arriving,  
behold the vision of the eternal (compare Symp. (Greek) Republic (Greek)  
also Phaedrus). Under one aspect 'the idea is love'; under another,  
'truth.'  In both the lover of wisdom is the 'spectator of all time and of  
all existence.'  This is a 'mystery' in which Plato also obscurely  
intimates the union of the spiritual and fleshly, the interpenetration of  
the moral and intellectual faculties.
  
The divine image of beauty which resides within Socrates has been revealed;  
the Silenus, or outward man, has now to be exhibited. The description of  
Socrates follows immediately after the speech of Socrates; one is the  
complement of the other. At the height of divine inspiration, when the  
force of nature can no further go, by way of contrast to this extreme  
idealism, Alcibiades, accompanied by a troop of revellers and a flute-girl,  
staggers in, and being drunk is able to tell of things which he would have  
been ashamed to make known if he had been sober. The state of his  
affections towards Socrates, unintelligible to us and perverted as they  
appear, affords an illustration of the power ascribed to the loves of man  
in the speech of Pausanias. He does not suppose his feelings to be  
peculiar to himself: there are several other persons in the company who  
have been equally in love with Socrates, and like himself have been  
deceived by him. The singular part of this confession is the combination  
of the most degrading passion with the desire of virtue and improvement.  
Such an union is not wholly untrue to human nature, which is capable of  
combining good and evil in a degree beyond what we can easily conceive. In  
imaginative persons, especially, the God and beast in man seem to part  
asunder more than is natural in a well-regulated mind. The Platonic  
Socrates (for of the real Socrates this may be doubted: compare his public  
rebuke of Critias for his shameful love of Euthydemus in Xenophon,  
Memorabilia) does not regard the greatest evil of Greek life as a thing not  
to be spoken of; but it has a ridiculous element (Plato's Symp.), and is a  
subject for irony, no less than for moral reprobation (compare Plato's  
Symp.). It is also used as a figure of speech which no one interpreted  
literally (compare Xen. Symp.). Nor does Plato feel any repugnance, such  
as would be felt in modern times, at bringing his great master and hero  
into connexion with nameless crimes. He is contented with representing him  
as a saint, who has won 'the Olympian victory' over the temptations of  
human nature. The fault of taste, which to us is so glaring and which was  
recognized by the Greeks of a later age (Athenaeus), was not perceived by  
Plato himself. We are still more surprised to find that the philosopher is  
incited to take the first step in his upward progress (Symp.) by the beauty  
of young men and boys, which was alone capable of inspiring the modern  
feeling of romance in the Greek mind. The passion of love took the  
spurious form of an enthusiasm for the ideal of beauty--a worship as of  
some godlike image of an Apollo or Antinous. But the love of youth when  
not depraved was a love of virtue and modesty as well as of beauty, the one  
being the expression of the other; and in certain Greek states, especially  
at Sparta and Thebes, the honourable attachment of a youth to an elder man  
was a part of his education. The 'army of lovers and their beloved who  
would be invincible if they could be united by such a tie' (Symp.), is not  
a mere fiction of Plato's, but seems actually to have existed at Thebes in  
the days of Epaminondas and Pelopidas, if we may believe writers cited  
anonymously by Plutarch, Pelop. Vit. It is observable that Plato never in  
the least degree excuses the depraved love of the body (compare Charm.;  
Rep.; Laws; Symp.; and once more Xenophon, Mem.), nor is there any Greek  
writer of mark who condones or approves such connexions. But owing partly  
to the puzzling nature of the subject these friendships are spoken of by  
Plato in a manner different from that customary among ourselves. To most  
of them we should hesitate to ascribe, any more than to the attachment of  
Achilles and Patroclus in Homer, an immoral or licentious character. There  
were many, doubtless, to whom the love of the fair mind was the noblest  
form of friendship (Rep.), and who deemed the friendship of man with man to  
be higher than the love of woman, because altogether separated from the  
bodily appetites. The existence of such attachments may be reasonably  
attributed to the inferiority and seclusion of woman, and the want of a  
real family or social life and parental influence in Hellenic cities; and  
they were encouraged by the practice of gymnastic exercises, by the  
meetings of political clubs, and by the tie of military companionship.  
They were also an educational institution: a young person was specially  
entrusted by his parents to some elder friend who was expected by them to  
train their son in manly exercises and in virtue. It is not likely that a  
Greek parent committed him to a lover, any more than we should to a  
schoolmaster, in the expectation that he would be corrupted by him, but  
rather in the hope that his morals would be better cared for than was  
possible in a great household of slaves.
  
It is difficult to adduce the authority of Plato either for or against such  
practices or customs, because it is not always easy to determine whether he  
is speaking of 'the heavenly and philosophical love, or of the coarse  
Polyhymnia:' and he often refers to this (e.g. in the Symposium) half in  
jest, yet 'with a certain degree of seriousness.'  We observe that they  
entered into one part of Greek literature, but not into another, and that  
the larger part is free from such associations. Indecency was an element  
of the ludicrous in the old Greek Comedy, as it has been in other ages and  
countries. But effeminate love was always condemned as well as ridiculed  
by the Comic poets; and in the New Comedy the allusions to such topics have  
disappeared. They seem to have been no longer tolerated by the greater  
refinement of the age. False sentiment is found in the Lyric and Elegiac  
poets; and in mythology 'the greatest of the Gods' (Rep.) is not exempt  
from evil imputations. But the morals of a nation are not to be judged of  
wholly by its literature. Hellas was not necessarily more corrupted in the  
days of the Persian and Peloponnesian wars, or of Plato and the Orators,  
than England in the time of Fielding and Smollett, or France in the  
nineteenth century. No one supposes certain French novels to be a  
representation of ordinary French life. And the greater part of Greek  
literature, beginning with Homer and including the tragedians,  
philosophers, and, with the exception of the Comic poets (whose business  
was to raise a laugh by whatever means), all the greater writers of Hellas  
who have been preserved to us, are free from the taint of indecency.
  
Some general considerations occur to our mind when we begin to reflect on  
this subject. (1) That good and evil are linked together in human nature,  
and have often existed side by side in the world and in man to an extent  
hardly credible. We cannot distinguish them, and are therefore unable to  
part them; as in the parable 'they grow together unto the harvest:'  it is  
only a rule of external decency by which society can divide them. Nor  
should we be right in inferring from the prevalence of any one vice or  
corruption that a state or individual was demoralized in their whole  
character. Not only has the corruption of the best been sometimes thought  
to be the worst, but it may be remarked that this very excess of evil has  
been the stimulus to good (compare Plato, Laws, where he says that in the  
most corrupt cities individuals are to be found beyond all praise). (2) It  
may be observed that evils which admit of degrees can seldom be rightly  
estimated, because under the same name actions of the most different  
degrees of culpability may be included. No charge is more easily set going  
than the imputation of secret wickedness (which cannot be either proved or  
disproved and often cannot be defined) when directed against a person of  
whom the world, or a section of it, is predisposed to think evil. And it  
is quite possible that the malignity of Greek scandal, aroused by some  
personal jealousy or party enmity, may have converted the innocent  
friendship of a great man for a noble youth into a connexion of another  
kind. Such accusations were brought against several of the leading men of  
Hellas, e.g. Cimon, Alcibiades, Critias, Demosthenes, Epaminondas: several  
of the Roman emperors were assailed by similar weapons which have been used  
even in our own day against statesmen of the highest character. (3) While  
we know that in this matter there is a great gulf fixed between Greek and  
Christian Ethics, yet, if we would do justice to the Greeks, we must also  
acknowledge that there was a greater outspokenness among them than among  
ourselves about the things which nature hides, and that the more frequent  
mention of such topics is not to be taken as the measure of the prevalence  
of offences, or as a proof of the general corruption of society. It is  
likely that every religion in the world has used words or practised rites  
in one age, which have become distasteful or repugnant to another. We  
cannot, though for different reasons, trust the representations either of  
Comedy or Satire; and still less of Christian Apologists. (4) We observe  
that at Thebes and Lacedemon the attachment of an elder friend to a beloved  
youth was often deemed to be a part of his education; and was encouraged by  
his parents--it was only shameful if it degenerated into licentiousness.  
Such we may believe to have been the tie which united Asophychus and  
Cephisodorus with the great Epaminondas in whose companionship they fell  
(Plutarch, Amat.; Athenaeus on the authority of Theopompus). (5) A small  
matter: there appears to be a difference of custom among the Greeks and  
among ourselves, as between ourselves and continental nations at the  
present time, in modes of salutation. We must not suspect evil in the  
hearty kiss or embrace of a male friend 'returning from the army at  
Potidaea' any more than in a similar salutation when practised by members  
of the same family. But those who make these admissions, and who regard,  
not without pity, the victims of such illusions in our own day, whose life  
has been blasted by them, may be none the less resolved that the natural  
and healthy instincts of mankind shall alone be tolerated (Greek); and that  
the lesson of manliness which we have inherited from our fathers shall not  
degenerate into sentimentalism or effeminacy. The possibility of an  
honourable connexion of this kind seems to have died out with Greek  
civilization. Among the Romans, and also among barbarians, such as the  
Celts and Persians, there is no trace of such attachments existing in any  
noble or virtuous form.
  
(Compare Hoeck's Creta and the admirable and exhaustive article of Meier in  
Ersch and Grueber's Cyclopedia on this subject; Plutarch, Amatores;  
Athenaeus; Lysias contra Simonem; Aesch. c. Timarchum.)  
  
The character of Alcibiades in the Symposium is hardly less remarkable than  
that of Socrates, and agrees with the picture given of him in the first of  
the two Dialogues which are called by his name, and also with the slight  
sketch of him in the Protagoras. He is the impersonation of lawlessness--  
'the lion's whelp, who ought not to be reared in the city,' yet not without  
a certain generosity which gained the hearts of men,--strangely fascinated  
by Socrates, and possessed of a genius which might have been either the  
destruction or salvation of Athens. The dramatic interest of the character  
is heightened by the recollection of his after history. He seems to have  
been present to the mind of Plato in the description of the democratic man  
of the Republic (compare also Alcibiades 1).
  
There is no criterion of the date of the Symposium, except that which is  
furnished by the allusion to the division of Arcadia after the destruction  
of Mantinea. This took place in the year B.C. 384, which is the forty-  
fourth year of Plato's life. The Symposium cannot therefore be regarded as  
a youthful work. As Mantinea was restored in the year 369, the composition  
of the Dialogue will probably fall between 384 and 369. Whether the  
recollection of the event is more likely to have been renewed at the  
destruction or restoration of the city, rather than at some intermediate  
period, is a consideration not worth raising.
  
The Symposium is connected with the Phaedrus both in style and subject;  
they are the only Dialogues of Plato in which the theme of love is  
discussed at length. In both of them philosophy is regarded as a sort of  
enthusiasm or madness; Socrates is himself 'a prophet new inspired' with  
Bacchanalian revelry, which, like his philosophy, he characteristically  
pretends to have derived not from himself but from others. The Phaedo also  
presents some points of comparison with the Symposium. For there, too,  
philosophy might be described as 'dying for love;' and there are not  
wanting many touches of humour and fancy, which remind us of the Symposium.
But while the Phaedo and Phaedrus look backwards and forwards to past and  
future states of existence, in the Symposium there is no break between this  
world and another; and we rise from one to the other by a regular series of  
steps or stages, proceeding from the particulars of sense to the universal  
of reason, and from one universal to many, which are finally reunited in a  
single science (compare Rep.). At first immortality means only the  
succession of existences; even knowledge comes and goes. Then follows, in  
the language of the mysteries, a higher and a higher degree of initiation;  
at last we arrive at the perfect vision of beauty, not relative or  
changing, but eternal and absolute; not bounded by this world, or in or out  
of this world, but an aspect of the divine, extending over all things, and  
having no limit of space or time: this is the highest knowledge of which  
the human mind is capable. Plato does not go on to ask whether the  
individual is absorbed in the sea of light and beauty or retains his  
personality. Enough for him to have attained the true beauty or good,  
without enquiring precisely into the relation in which human beings stood  
to it. That the soul has such a reach of thought, and is capable of  
partaking of the eternal nature, seems to imply that she too is eternal  
(compare Phaedrus). But Plato does not distinguish the eternal in man from  
the eternal in the world or in God. He is willing to rest in the  
contemplation of the idea, which to him is the cause of all things (Rep.),  
and has no strength to go further.
  
The Symposium of Xenophon, in which Socrates describes himself as a pander,  
and also discourses of the difference between sensual and sentimental love,  
likewise offers several interesting points of comparison. But the  
suspicion which hangs over other writings of Xenophon, and the numerous  
minute references to the Phaedrus and Symposium, as well as to some of the  
other writings of Plato, throw a doubt on the genuineness of the work. The  
Symposium of Xenophon, if written by him at all, would certainly show that  
he wrote against Plato, and was acquainted with his works. Of this  
hostility there is no trace in the Memorabilia. Such a rivalry is more  
characteristic of an imitator than of an original writer. The (so-called)  
Symposium of Xenophon may therefore have no more title to be regarded as  
genuine than the confessedly spurious Apology.
  
There are no means of determining the relative order in time of the  
Phaedrus, Symposium, Phaedo. The order which has been adopted in this  
translation rests on no other principle than the desire to bring together  
in a series the memorials of the life of Socrates.
  
  
SYMPOSIUM  
  
by  
  
Plato  
  
Translated by Benjamin Jowett  
  
  
PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:
Apollodorus, who repeats to his companion the dialogue which he had heard  
from Aristodemus, and had already once narrated to Glaucon.
Phaedrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus, Aristophanes, Agathon, Socrates,  
Alcibiades, A Troop of Revellers.
  
SCENE: The House of Agathon.
  
  
Concerning the things about which you ask to be informed I believe that I  
am not ill-prepared with an answer. For the day before yesterday I was  
coming from my own home at Phalerum to the city, and one of my  
acquaintance, who had caught a sight of me from behind, calling out  
playfully in the distance, said: Apollodorus, O thou Phalerian (Probably a  
play of words on (Greek), 'bald-headed.') man, halt! So I did as I was  
bid; and then he said, I was looking for you, Apollodorus, only just now,  
that I might ask you about the speeches in praise of love, which were  
delivered by Socrates, Alcibiades, and others, at Agathon's supper.  
Phoenix, the son of Philip, told another person who told me of them; his  
narrative was very indistinct, but he said that you knew, and I wish that  
you would give me an account of them. Who, if not you, should be the  
reporter of the words of your friend? And first tell me, he said, were you  
present at this meeting?
  
Your informant, Glaucon, I said, must have been very indistinct indeed, if  
you imagine that the occasion was recent; or that I could have been of the  
party.
  
Why, yes, he replied, I thought so.
  
Impossible: I said. Are you ignorant that for many years Agathon has not  
resided at Athens; and not three have elapsed since I became acquainted  
with Socrates, and have made it my daily business to know all that he says  
and does. There was a time when I was running about the world, fancying  
myself to be well employed, but I was really a most wretched being, no  
better than you are now. I thought that I ought to do anything rather than  
be a philosopher.
  
Well, he said, jesting apart, tell me when the meeting occurred.
  
In our boyhood, I replied, when Agathon won the prize with his first  
tragedy, on the day after that on which he and his chorus offered the  
sacrifice of victory.
  
Then it must have been a long while ago, he said; and who told you--did  
Socrates?
  
No indeed, I replied, but the same person who told Phoenix;--he was a  
little fellow, who never wore any shoes, Aristodemus, of the deme of  
Cydathenaeum. He had been at Agathon's feast; and I think that in those  
days there was no one who was a more devoted admirer of Socrates.  
Moreover, I have asked Socrates about the truth of some parts of his  
narrative, and he confirmed them. Then, said Glaucon, let us have the tale  
over again; is not the road to Athens just made for conversation? And so  
we walked, and talked of the discourses on love; and therefore, as I said  
at first, I am not ill-prepared to comply with your request, and will have  
another rehearsal of them if you like. For to speak or to hear others  
speak of philosophy always gives me the greatest pleasure, to say nothing  
of the profit. But when I hear another strain, especially that of you rich  
men and traders, such conversation displeases me; and I pity you who are my  
companions, because you think that you are doing something when in reality  
you are doing nothing. And I dare say that you pity me in return, whom you  
regard as an unhappy creature, and very probably you are right. But I  
certainly know of you what you only think of me--there is the difference.
  
COMPANION: I see, Apollodorus, that you are just the same--always speaking  
evil of yourself, and of others; and I do believe that you pity all  
mankind, with the exception of Socrates, yourself first of all, true in  
this to your old name, which, however deserved, I know not how you  
acquired, of Apollodorus the madman; for you are always raging against  
yourself and everybody but Socrates.
  
APOLLODORUS: Yes, friend, and the reason why I am said to be mad, and out  
of my wits, is just because I have these notions of myself and you; no  
other evidence is required.
  
COMPANION: No more of that, Apollodorus; but let me renew my request that  
you would repeat the conversation.
  
APOLLODORUS: Well, the tale of love was on this wise:--But perhaps I had  
better begin at the beginning, and endeavour to give you the exact words of  
Aristodemus:
  
He said that he met Socrates fresh from the bath and sandalled; and as the  
sight of the sandals was unusual, he asked him whither he was going that he  
had been converted into such a beau:--  
  
To a banquet at Agathon's, he replied, whose invitation to his sacrifice of  
victory I refused yesterday, fearing a crowd, but promising that I would  
come to-day instead; and so I have put on my finery, because he is such a  
fine man. What say you to going with me unasked?
  
I will do as you bid me, I replied.
  
Follow then, he said, and let us demolish the proverb:--  
  
'To the feasts of inferior men the good unbidden go;'  
  
instead of which our proverb will run:--  
  
'To the feasts of the good the good unbidden go;'  
  
and this alteration may be supported by the authority of Homer himself, who  
not only demolishes but literally outrages the proverb. For, after  
picturing Agamemnon as the most valiant of men, he makes Menelaus, who is  
but a fainthearted warrior, come unbidden (Iliad) to the banquet of  
Agamemnon, who is feasting and offering sacrifices, not the better to the  
worse, but the worse to the better.
  
I rather fear, Socrates, said Aristodemus, lest this may still be my case;  
and that, like Menelaus in Homer, I shall be the inferior person, who  
  
'To the feasts of the wise unbidden goes.'  
  
But I shall say that I was bidden of you, and then you will have to make an  
excuse.
  
'Two going together,'  
  
he replied, in Homeric fashion, one or other of them may invent an excuse  
by the way (Iliad).
  
This was the style of their conversation as they went along. Socrates  
dropped behind in a fit of abstraction, and desired Aristodemus, who was  
waiting, to go on before him. When he reached the house of Agathon he  
found the doors wide open, and a comical thing happened. A servant coming  
out met him, and led him at once into the banqueting-hall in which the  
guests were reclining, for the banquet was about to begin. Welcome,  
Aristodemus, said Agathon, as soon as he appeared--you are just in time to  
sup with us; if you come on any other matter put it off, and make one of  
us, as I was looking for you yesterday and meant to have asked you, if I  
could have found you. But what have you done with Socrates?
  
I turned round, but Socrates was nowhere to be seen; and I had to explain  
that he had been with me a moment before, and that I came by his invitation  
to the supper.
  
You were quite right in coming, said Agathon; but where is he himself?
  
He was behind me just now, as I entered, he said, and I cannot think what  
has become of him.
  
Go and look for him, boy, said Agathon, and bring him in; and do you,  
Aristodemus, meanwhile take the place by Eryximachus.
  
The servant then assisted him to wash, and he lay down, and presently  
another servant came in and reported that our friend Socrates had retired  
into the portico of the neighbouring house. 'There he is fixed,' said he,  
'and when I call to him he will not stir.'  
  
How strange, said Agathon; then you must call him again, and keep calling  
him.
  
Let him alone, said my informant; he has a way of stopping anywhere and  
losing himself without any reason. I believe that he will soon appear; do  
not therefore disturb him.
  
Well, if you think so, I will leave him, said Agathon. And then, turning  
to the servants, he added, 'Let us have supper without waiting for him.  
Serve up whatever you please, for there is no one to give you orders;  
hitherto I have never left you to yourselves. But on this occasion imagine  
that you are our hosts, and that I and the company are your guests; treat  
us well, and then we shall commend you.'  After this, supper was served,  
but still no Socrates; and during the meal Agathon several times expressed  
a wish to send for him, but Aristodemus objected; and at last when the  
feast was about half over--for the fit, as usual, was not of long duration  
--Socrates entered. Agathon, who was reclining alone at the end of the  
table, begged that he would take the place next to him; that 'I may touch  
you,' he said, 'and have the benefit of that wise thought which came into  
your mind in the portico, and is now in your possession; for I am certain  
that you would not have come away until you had found what you sought.'  
  
How I wish, said Socrates, taking his place as he was desired, that wisdom  
could be infused by touch, out of the fuller into the emptier man, as water  
runs through wool out of a fuller cup into an emptier one; if that were so,  
how greatly should I value the privilege of reclining at your side! For  
you would have filled me full with a stream of wisdom plenteous and fair;  
whereas my own is of a very mean and questionable sort, no better than a  
dream. But yours is bright and full of promise, and was manifested forth  
in all the splendour of youth the day before yesterday, in the presence of  
more than thirty thousand Hellenes.
  
You are mocking, Socrates, said Agathon, and ere long you and I will have  
to determine who bears off the palm of wisdom--of this Dionysus shall be  
the judge; but at present you are better occupied with supper.
  
Socrates took his place on the couch, and supped with the rest; and then  
libations were offered, and after a hymn had been sung to the god, and  
there had been the usual ceremonies, they were about to commence drinking,  
when Pausanias said, And now, my friends, how can we drink with least  
injury to ourselves? I can assure you that I feel severely the effect of  
yesterday's potations, and must have time to recover; and I suspect that  
most of you are in the same predicament, for you were of the party  
yesterday. Consider then: How can the drinking be made easiest?
  
I entirely agree, said Aristophanes, that we should, by all means, avoid  
hard drinking, for I was myself one of those who were yesterday drowned in  
drink.
  
I think that you are right, said Eryximachus, the son of Acumenus; but I  
should still like to hear one other person speak: Is Agathon able to drink  
hard?
  
I am not equal to it, said Agathon.
  
Then, said Eryximachus, the weak heads like myself, Aristodemus, Phaedrus,  
and others who never can drink, are fortunate in finding that the stronger  
ones are not in a drinking mood. (I do not include Socrates, who is able  
either to drink or to abstain, and will not mind, whichever we do.)  Well,  
as of none of the company seem disposed to drink much, I may be forgiven  
for saying, as a physician, that drinking deep is a bad practice, which I  
never follow, if I can help, and certainly do not recommend to another,  
least of all to any one who still feels the effects of yesterday's carouse.
  
I always do what you advise, and especially what you prescribe as a  
physician, rejoined Phaedrus the Myrrhinusian, and the rest of the company,  
if they are wise, will do the same.
  
It was agreed that drinking was not to be the order of the day, but that  
they were all to drink only so much as they pleased.
  
Then, said Eryximachus, as you are all agreed that drinking is to be  
voluntary, and that there is to be no compulsion, I move, in the next  
place, that the flute-girl, who has just made her appearance, be told to go  
away and play to herself, or, if she likes, to the women who are within  
(compare Prot.). To-day let us have conversation instead; and, if you will  
allow me, I will tell you what sort of conversation. This proposal having  
been accepted, Eryximachus proceeded as follows:--  
  
I will begin, he said, after the manner of Melanippe in Euripides,   
  
'Not mine the word'  
  
which I am about to speak, but that of Phaedrus. For often he says to me  
in an indignant tone:--'What a strange thing it is, Eryximachus, that,  
whereas other gods have poems and hymns made in their honour, the great and  
glorious god, Love, has no encomiast among all the poets who are so many.  
There are the worthy sophists too--the excellent Prodicus for example, who  
have descanted in prose on the virtues of Heracles and other heroes; and,  
what is still more extraordinary, I have met with a philosophical work in  
which the utility of salt has been made the theme of an eloquent discourse;  
and many other like things have had a like honour bestowed upon them. And  
only to think that there should have been an eager interest created about  
them, and yet that to this day no one has ever dared worthily to hymn  
Love's praises! So entirely has this great deity been neglected.'  Now in  
this Phaedrus seems to me to be quite right, and therefore I want to offer  
him a contribution; also I think that at the present moment we who are here  
assembled cannot do better than honour the god Love. If you agree with me,  
there will be no lack of conversation; for I mean to propose that each of  
us in turn, going from left to right, shall make a speech in honour of  
Love. Let him give us the best which he can; and Phaedrus, because he is  
sitting first on the left hand, and because he is the father of the  
thought, shall begin.
  
No one will vote against you, Eryximachus, said Socrates. How can I oppose  
your motion, who profess to understand nothing but matters of love; nor, I  
presume, will Agathon and Pausanias; and there can be no doubt of  
Aristophanes, whose whole concern is with Dionysus and Aphrodite; nor will  
any one disagree of those whom I see around me. The proposal, as I am  
aware, may seem rather hard upon us whose place is last; but we shall be  
contented if we hear some good speeches first. Let Phaedrus begin the  
praise of Love, and good luck to him. All the company expressed their  
assent, and desired him to do as Socrates bade him.
  
Aristodemus did not recollect all that was said, nor do I recollect all  
that he related to me; but I will tell you what I thought most worthy of  
remembrance, and what the chief speakers said.
  
Phaedrus began by affirming that Love is a mighty god, and wonderful among  
gods and men, but especially wonderful in his birth. For he is the eldest  
of the gods, which is an honour to him; and a proof of his claim to this  
honour is, that of his parents there is no memorial; neither poet nor  
prose-writer has ever affirmed that he had any. As Hesiod says:--  
  
'First Chaos came, and then broad-bosomed Earth,  
The everlasting seat of all that is,  
And Love.'  
  
In other words, after Chaos, the Earth and Love, these two, came into  
being. Also Parmenides sings of Generation:
  
'First in the train of gods, he fashioned Love.'  
  
And Acusilaus agrees with Hesiod. Thus numerous are the witnesses who  
acknowledge Love to be the eldest of the gods. And not only is he the  
eldest, he is also the source of the greatest benefits to us. For I know  
not any greater blessing to a young man who is beginning life than a  
virtuous lover, or to the lover than a beloved youth. For the principle  
which ought to be the guide of men who would nobly live--that principle, I  
say, neither kindred, nor honour, nor wealth, nor any other motive is able  
to implant so well as love. Of what am I speaking? Of the sense of honour  
and dishonour, without which neither